Unauthorized alert sent to cell phones across Brazil
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by zdw
2 hours ago
| 6 comments
| cnn.com
| HN
p0w3n3d
42 minutes ago
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TBH phones in Poland allow to call you "from" an arbitrary number (i.e. display it on your phone). Also send SMS with arbitrary source.

This is being used by scammers who call you and tell they are from police bank etc

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lxgr
38 minutes ago
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This works in many countries, since the signalling protocols historically assumed a trusted small set of participants, not unlike email – with similar consequences once those assumptions became less and less true.
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kakacik
5 minutes ago
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I've worked a bit on the app which calls major telco provider directly. It was a basic web service call, and sender could be entered as anything. This is basic property of cellular networks, no more safety than say standard email.
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Scoundreller
1 hour ago
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throwaway81523
48 minutes ago
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There was a Larry Niven story where if you tried to call a certain guy, every phone in South America would ring instead. Anyone remember which story it was? The phone thing was just a throwaway line, not a significant plot point.
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p0w3n3d
44 minutes ago
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It might have been the Ringworld

"Well?"Nessus began to pace the floor. "Many disqualify themselves by obvious bad luck. Of the rest, none seem to be available. When we call, they are out. When we call back, the phone computer gives us a bad connection. When we ask for any member of the Brandt family, every phone in South America rings. There have been complaints. It is very frustrating."

https://www.naneahoffman.com/the-blog/shelf-care-alien-archi...

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shagie
44 minutes ago
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Ringworld. https://sciencemeetsfiction.com/2021/06/20/ringworld-theory-...

    “When we call, they are out. When we call back, the phone computer gives us a bad connection. When we ask for any member of the Brandt family, every phone in South America rings.”
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mseepgood
1 hour ago
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Of all the messages they could have sent they chose the most boring.
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neko_ranger
1 hour ago
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lets play a game HN, what would be the best alert to send?

mine would be something scifi, like "ALIENS HAVE LANDED" or "PLUTO DECLARES WAR"

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tetha
49 minutes ago
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The world needs more confusing positivity.

"You are beautiful and wonderful - keep going! (unlike this systems security)"

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falcor84
19 minutes ago
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Keep on keeping on.
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dgellow
45 minutes ago
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michaeljx
1 hour ago
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METEOR STRIKE IN 8 MINUTES
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Z0rp
1 hour ago
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DONT BELIEVE THEM
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worble
55 minutes ago
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Any of the Sims 1 prank phone calls would be amazing
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crtasm
14 minutes ago
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Tom has added you as a friend!
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shagie
42 minutes ago
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I got a new job! from seank
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lysace
45 minutes ago
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Most dangerous one:

"This is Army Commander Tomás Miguel Ribeiro Paiva. We have chosen to take command of the country to protect you against serious crimes against the people that we have become aware of. Remain calm and continue with your daily duties."

(Except in Brazilian Portuguese.)

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marcosdumay
29 minutes ago
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Scary stuff.

I guess so scary that there isn't a single person willing to try it. But yeah, that is the most dangerous one possible.

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auggierose
48 minutes ago
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The truth is out there!
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cURLSagan
47 minutes ago
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THE DISPLAY IS A LIE
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Kyselica
53 minutes ago
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“BRAZIL ELIMINATED FROM WORLD CUP”
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stavros
7 minutes ago
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"Due to deteriorating economic conditions, we have decided to abolish currency altogether. The Real is now worth nothing. All trade will henceforth be performed exclusively in gold."
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mckirk
1 hour ago
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"THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CAUSE FOR ALARM"
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peddling-brink
44 minutes ago
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“DO NOT LOOK AT THE MOON”
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harrisoned
40 minutes ago
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"PIX will be discontinued today"
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paulddraper
20 minutes ago
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FOLLOW THE WHITE RABBIT
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themafia
55 minutes ago
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"ALL DEBTS HAVE BEEN ERASED. JUBILEE."
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tedk-42
47 minutes ago
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ARGENTINA IS BETTER THAN BRAZIL
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AlienRobot
47 minutes ago
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At least it wasn't a crypto scam.
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knuppar
9 minutes ago
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misantropia é um perigo rapaziada
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jpablo
33 minutes ago
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The power to send mass messages to a whole country is the worst thing google/apple have given to governments across the world.
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woodruffw
30 minutes ago
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This implies that governments didn’t already have this ability, which appears to be largely untrue? To my understanding, many countries already had emergency messaging systems, and mobile integrations are just a way of modernizing them.

(It seems exceedingly good that the government can warn every civilian about natural disasters, etc.)

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murderfs
26 minutes ago
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These aren't from Google or Apple, they're from the wireless providers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast
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