The Vespa at 80: Why the Italian scooter remains the coolest thing on 2 wheels
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3 days ago
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| cbc.ca
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esperent
55 minutes ago
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I like Vespas, they're very stylish, but damn they are noisy, and not a nice rumble either but more like a very loud chainsaw. They give off a terrible amount of smoke compared more modern scooters too. I do often wonder why so few other new small motorcycles or scooters have similarly beautiful designs though.

However, for me, having lived in a country with a motorbike culture for the last decade, the coolest thing on two wheels is electric scooters. So much torque, range nearly equal to same sized gas scooters, and no pollution of the noise or smoke variety. It makes such a difference when everyone is zipping around on these quiet, non-stinking scooters. That's cool. Now it just needs someone to make an electric scooter design as iconic as a Vespa.

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GenerWork
2 minutes ago
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Are you thinking of older Vespas? There's a few modern ones near me and they've never struck me as overly noisy.
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nsbk
17 minutes ago
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My brother and I restored my dad’s ‘64 Vespa 150S and the thing is extremely loud!

It is very smelly as well as it’s a two stroke engine, but I don’t mind that at all. Quite the opposite

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akmiller
1 minute ago
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…and here I am a dumb American tourist who knew nothing about Vespa’s and was just upset because I couldn’t get my uber and missed my train.

Now I want one!

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timonoko
53 minutes ago
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The horror that was aluminium engine. You could open and close a screw only twice and goodbye threads.
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amelius
12 minutes ago
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The coolest thing if you're not behind them inhaling their smoke.
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Lio
15 minutes ago
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Timeless iconic Italian design.

I'm surprised that the article didn't mention the role Vespa (and Lambretta) played in the British Mod scene.

You can see it's influence in the RAF roundel stickers on bikes in the article.

For anyone interested Quadrophenia is still a fun introduction:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrophenia_(film)

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xnx
57 minutes ago
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Iconic design, but way too noisy and dirty. Article doesn't mention "electric" once.
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nxpnsv
46 minutes ago
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The electric range of Vespas are using the same iconic design.
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tiew9Vii
8 minutes ago
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Are you talking about a 1950’s Vespa or a 2026 Vespa?

A modern 300cc four stroke Vespa will use 3.3 litres of fuel per 100km and Euro 5 means noise is quiet.

As far as things go, modern scooters are great, practical, economical vehicles.

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pjmlp
55 minutes ago
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Maybe because not everyone cares, while the planet gets destroyed with wars, private jets and AI centers?
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otabdeveloper4
51 minutes ago
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Noise pollution is a different issue than "saving the planet".
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pjmlp
44 minutes ago
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That is only an issue when driving 50cc and applies to all of them, regardless of which kind of motorbike.

Or those that love "tuning" taking the noise filters out of the escapes.

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stefan_
26 minutes ago
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Yes, all of them are terrible and should have ceased to exist 10 years ago? Now is just the next best time. It won’t save the industry addicted to them of course, China has long gotten rid of them.
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pjmlp
22 minutes ago
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Well, everything is doable when following the same kind of government based "education".

Also lets ignore drilling the planet for rare minerals in the process, that China owns.

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shrubble
50 minutes ago
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Taylor Swift just used how many tons to get married?
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gambiting
49 minutes ago
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And that's relevant how? If you live in a city where everyone owns a petrol scooter it's absurd. Can't wait for all of these to be electric, it's just common sense.
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mdp2021
28 minutes ago
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When electric will be equally practical (recharge time, mileage) and accessible (we do not have electronic money).

And the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs.

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esrauch
11 minutes ago
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What noise pollution do you hear from electric? You mean the noise cars make when they are backing up or what?
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wffurr
11 minutes ago
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> the noise pollition I hear coming from the electric to me is a million times worse than ICEs.

What are you talking about? The electric ones are significantly quieter.

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jgalt212
13 minutes ago
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Cheryl Tunt: "Mopeds are fun, but you don't want your buddies to see you riding one."
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TacticalCoder
15 minutes ago
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Ah ah my youth! I had a Vespa with a 200cc engine, three speeds, from the 80s: this thing would do a wheelie in 1st gear. And very hard to control wheelie for the weight is uneven on a Vespa. My brother had a rare Vespa 125 cc from 1961 or something: when he left the country he sold it to a friend who still owns it.

Another friend of mine --the reason we all had Vespa back then-- could disassemble and reassemble them with his eyes closed, including the engine.

We'd go to flea markets and garage sales around the country looking for Vespa, Lambrettas and even french Solex for sale. Best find was not a Vespa though but a real Honda Monkey Z50.

One day I forgot to put oil in a Vespa and the engine just froze: cylinder expanded in the piston and rear-wheel locked in place. Somehow I didn't crash. I put oil (you typically had oil with you, in a tiny trunk), waited for the thing to cool down: it just started back up (!).

These were the days, thanks for posting that on HN.

P.S: it's really sad we cannot have nice things posted without having the majority of comments being from environmental-jihadists : (

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kalessin
54 minutes ago
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Thanks I hate it, extremely noisy and dirty. I really wish the brand dies with fossil fuels.
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fooblaster
50 minutes ago
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Thankfully all this stuff has been or is being killed by ebikes and escooters which are vastly better technology.
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kenty
21 minutes ago
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I hate to say it but good riddance! OK to keep as a classic icon for everything on the road but definitely not something that I would want to continue being popular.
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wffurr
9 minutes ago
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Keep the body shell, modernize the internals. I think they have already done so...
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casta
2 minutes ago
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There has been an electric vespa for quita a while: https://storeusa.vespa.com/elettrica/vespa-elettrica-45-mph....
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