Canada's only watchmaking school still ticking after 80 years
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3 days ago
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sleepyguy
3 hours ago
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My grandfather was a master watchmaker and jeweler who learned his trade in the Soviet Union and then in Europe. After emigrating to Toronto after the war, he opened his own jewelry store, where he repaired watches and clocks, as well as crafted and repaired fine jewelry.

He was a true master of his craft and built a successful business based on his exceptional skill. He Was well known for his craftsmanship and his remarkable ability to repair virtually any watch or clock, no matter how complex.

Jewelers from across the city would bring him pieces that no one else could repair. For antique and vintage timepieces, he would often fabricate tiny replacement parts by hand when originals were no longer available. When he retired, very large companies would still come to his home to repair incredibly expensive pieces. He liked to tinker and would quietly work in his little home shop, pipe burning, radio playing, and visitors coming throughout the day to have him fix things.

When he passed, he had 10's of 1000's of watch parts in all these little bags that were all tagged and in boxes. We ended up giving them away to one of his customers who own several Jewelry stores. Had I known I would have offered them to this school along with 100's of watches he kept for parts.

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p1necone
3 hours ago
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My father was a watchmaker. Fond memories of going with him in his van to the various jewellers he did work for picking up and dropping off. I remember being given a big metal lamp from his workshop when he passed away and realising the body of the lamp was not isolated from the incoming power, although luckily not at mains voltage (not what killed him).
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culopatin
35 minutes ago
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Is this still a viable career?
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LzeYing
3 hours ago
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I believe this is exactly the kind of high-paying job that is difficult for AI to replace.
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seemaze
2 hours ago
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Mechanical timepieces are a luxury item, and these students are essentially artists in training. Wrist time was solved in the late 1970's with the commoditization of quartz movements. These 'jobs' will get replaced by AI at approximately the same pace as your local sculptor.
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Analemma_
2 hours ago
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I don't know if watchmaking is one of them, but there are a bunch of traditional crafts which are actually approaching a danger point because there aren't enough up-and-coming acolytes in the discipline to replace them, even though the craft still enjoys enough popular support to have a thriving economy.

Anecdotally, I see enough mechanical watches on wrists and in duty-free shops that I imagine there's enough of a pipeline there for at least one school. Much like vinyl records it doesn't appear to actually be going away even if it's superfluous.

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LzeYing
1 hour ago
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Come to think of it, it makes sense; in this day and age, every industry is evolving so rapidly that the future remains quite uncertain.
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jameshart
1 hour ago
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I am literally wearing a watch right now that was produced without any of these artisans’ specialized labor and which boasts among its features access to AI.

In a very real sense I have replaced use of the skills of watchmakers with AI.

Sorry about that. To be fair most watchmakers were already put out of work by quartz oscillators and integrated circuits in the 1980s.

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keiferski
20 minutes ago
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Not really. No one wants a Rolex or Omega with ChatGPT in it.
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soperj
1 hour ago
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you need AI to tell the time?
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annzabelle
1 hour ago
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I have a friend who got an English and Creative Writing degree from a liberal arts college, and then immediately went back to trade school for band instrument repair. It's not particularly lucrative, as trades go, but it does seem a lot more future proof than most careers.
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LzeYing
1 hour ago
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Haha, so you're going to do something AI can't replace, right?
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annzabelle
1 hour ago
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Thinking about it. I'm pretty attracted to the idea of a career with some kind of protectionist licensing system, like doctor or actuary, but that may just be staving off the inevitable. Might teach high school.

After I got laid off in the US, I moved to a mountain town in New Zealand planning on being a ski lift operator while I think about the future, but got a software developer job by accident instead.

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stouset
2 hours ago
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Sure but it’s also a microscopically small component of the country’s overall economy.
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zuzululu
2 hours ago
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canada's economy is roughly slightly below Mississipi with increasing amount of migration from third world countries putting strain on its resources and with almost no plans other than to tax the already overstretched middle class

its almost the exact dilemma in Western Europe except the only saving grace is military security is guaranteed by its larger and richer neighbor

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sanswork
2 hours ago
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Canada's GDP is $2.2t vs $165b for Mississippi. Immigration rate is decreasing.
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zuzululu
13 minutes ago
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thanks for bringing this up and I have to reiterate the importance of per capita which is something that is curiously ignored in these discussions but I'm sure you know the difference from just measuring GDP alone and just forgot about it

Canada's nominal GDP per capita is roughly $53,800 USD, which places it nearly on par with Mississippi

also Canada admits people from third world countries at a per-capita rate roughly four times higher than the United States, with none of the enforcement agencies capable of tackling illegal immigration which a lot of this demographic engages in. It's difficult for ICE now imagine Canada which has no such enforcement on the same scale

my point is that Canada has a smaller economy but imports more from the third world than its much richer and powerful neighbor.

this is not a sustainable arrangement.

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wasabi991011
1 hour ago
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> canada's economy is roughly slightly below Mississipi

No, it isn't. Not true in absolute terms, not true per capita, not true adjusted for purchasing power.

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ipaddr
1 hour ago
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keiferski
29 minutes ago
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Basically anything that is a luxury good is probably safe from AI. If people are buying it for status or high performance reasons, they aren’t going to pick the low end AI slop version.
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numbersfollow67
2 hours ago
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Unless they’re replaced by humans controlled by AI(look at the various research for BCIs or for gene therapy that allows for the possibility for you to be controlled by radio frequencies), then they’re very easily replaced.
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matheusmoreira
38 minutes ago
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> gene therapy that allows for the possibility for you to be controlled by radio frequencies

What. Can you cite this research?

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14
3 hours ago
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As a Canadian cool! Never heard of this school before but on the west coast so probably why.

I've watched many watch repair videos online and the knowledge base required is huge. Also there are many tools needed which are not cheap. There is just so much to know that takes years to learn. Very cool that the knowledge is being shared and the skill passed on. In my small town there was only one guy who worked on clocks and watches. He passed a while back and his kids continue with his jewelry store but they now send out watches and clocks to another business as none of his kids learned how to do it.

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whynotmaybe
2 hours ago
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I discovered this school right after discovering the Richard Mille clock in Quebec City [1] because the school is responsible for maintaining the clock.

1. https://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/en/apropos/portrait/attraits/...

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ElenaDaibunny
2 hours ago
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kid me thought AI would replace people doing insanely precise hand work. turns out it replaced me writing emails, and this school's still going strong after 80 years. lmao we got played
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throwatdem12311
2 hours ago
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AI was supposed to do my laundry so that I could make art and code for fun but now the AI is coding and making art while I do laundry.
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DigiEggz
1 hour ago
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Profound and painful statement.
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ElenaDaibunny
1 hour ago
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yep,sci-fi really got this one wrong lol.
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dghlsakjg
1 hour ago
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Give the Chinese some time.

They are doing incredible things with world models, and have an economy that really could do incredible things with robots wired to effective world models.

It won't surprise me at all if in 10 years LLMs are less of a big deal than world models

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throwatdem12311
2 hours ago
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Maybe I will take up watchmaking when I get sick of AI slop programming and offshore morons going wild with a Claude subscription.
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ggm
16 minutes ago
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If you read about Harrison's Chronometers you read of Rupert T. Gould who suffered a Nervous Breakdown, and it is said fell into watch repair as therapy, bringing them back to life.
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ButlerianJihad
3 hours ago
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Yes, but has it taken a licking?
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