▲lapetitejort9 minutes ago
[-] I got into OSM and StreetComplete to flesh out intersections, stop signs, and sidewalks in my area. I always felt like I was doing something wrong though. I created crosswalks, then OSM would prompt me to connect the crosswalk to the road via a crossing. In StreetComplete, it felt like I was filling in duplicate data. I had to add whether the crossing had crossing lights not only at the middle crossing, but on the sides as well. This probably doesn't make any sense.
Basically, I am never confident I am editing OSM correctly. Am I supposed to manually draw out sidewalks, or tag the road as having a sidewalk? After adding sidewalks in my area, StreetComplete is now asking me if roads have sidewalks, which I clearly see on the map. Reminds me of editing the various Wiki pages. There's several ways of documenting something, only one way is correct, and it's undocumented.
earth-tattoo58 minutes ago
[-] It sucks that Google is probably using OSM data to check what they are missing and adding it to their maps, but we can't do vice versa. OSM should change their license to something like if you use our data, you have to make yours open as well.
reply▲GreyStache45 minutes ago
[-] Change that to definitely. I added a brand-new road on OSM and a week later it was on google maps.
reply▲Google can cheat a little, especially for new roads since they notice when someone is driving over it. When there was a redesign of an intersection near here, someone marked the road as completed in OSM maybe half an hour after it was opened (we have a few quite active mappers), and Google had it open about two hours later and I suspect no one changed the data directly.
reply▲I discovered that recently, it's a very fun way to contribute to OpenStreetMap, and the UI is really well-done, it's totally beginner friendly!
I wish there was a way to do more than labeling though, like add simple roads and footpaths
reply▲I have used it one (1) time in my life, ans it was my first experience with OpenStreetMap in general. It was pretty fun!
It's very intuitive and makes you learn just how detailed and specific map data can be. Can't say much about missing features since I don't event know what can be done.
Recommended experience, it's like playing Pokemon Go without the evil part :)
What's the "evil" part?
reply▲Forgeties792 hours ago
[-] Niantic would sell your children’s social security numbers if they thought they’d get away with it.
reply▲Usually if I need to add a footpath I use the "Create new track recording" feature to trace out the path with GPS, then come back to it later on desktop. Adding paths is pretty awkward to do on mobile, especially since there's no satellite overlay.
reply▲StreetComplete doesn't have satellite overlays, but both Vespucci and EveryDoor support viewing satellite overlay tiles!
reply▲Are there other similar apps to stimulate soft "crowdfixing" ? I'm sure there are plenty of other aspect of society that would benefit from a light way to know where someone can contribute or notify so other can fix things (forest dumps, random trash). Homeostatic apps to ensure our surroundings are close to a good state :]
reply▲Great app. There is also
https://every-door.app/ that gives you slightly different set of tasks and allows you to place POI easily. I recently mapped a lot of trash cans and benches around my neighborhood while walking with my dog.
StreetComplete lets you place trash cans and benches too (among other things) using the "Things" overlay. IMO Every Door has a much more complicated UI, though it's also more of a full featured editor than StreetComplete. (Though still less so than something like Vespucci.)
reply▲progbits39 minutes ago
[-] Thank you!
Is that a new feature? I have over a thousand contributions on StreetComplete (casually using it during walks) and somehow I never noticed that button.
The overlays are intentionally a bit hidden, since they're more of a power-user feature and I appreciate that StreetComplete retains beginner-friendliness as a core tenet. But the overlays are indeed awesome for survey-type walks where you just want to make sure that all sidewalks are mapped correctly, or to see which shops are still missing.
reply▲Each to their own, I use both for different things, I like EveryDoor UI better for placing POIs.
reply▲The UX is really bad. POI loading is taking 10+ seconds to update, then any zoom or pan reorders the list of locations. Most of the missing info (around me) is just phone numbers and hours of operation, which are boring and should be trivial to collect automatically.
reply▲The thing is that the best way to get the phones and opening hours is to walk in person and look them up. Any source for the automated collection is way more likely to be outdated/wrong than what the sign or the person behind the counter tells you. And can also have non-permissive license not compatible with the OSM license.
reply▲Raw Information cannot be licensed, and I am not sure why OSM sticks to the policy that it can.
Google Maps does not hold the rights to which opening hours Bob's Bakery keeps. If someone entered them from Bob's Bakery their site onto Maps, you are free to type it off of Maps onto OSM. Legally anyway. OSM themselves still hold the policy you can't, so you should adhere to that.
oooo what a fantastic idea. I have always wanted to map as many clothes donation boxes as possible.
reply▲You can do that, little free libraries, water fountains, etc. all in StreetComplete as well.
reply▲wxlong200040 minutes ago
[-] StreetComplete's trick is hiding the tagging model until you actually need it. Most contributor tools expose the schema too early.
reply▲Just downloaded and made 15+ small contributions in the vicinity of my area. Very well built app. Super simple to use. And gamification is top-notch. Recommended.
reply▲pavel_lishin31 minutes ago
[-] I downloaded this, and I'm slightly amazed at how much detail there is. What material the utility poles are made of?
reply▲This is very cool, I wish there was some way to use it on a bicycle though. For example, when moving into a street it could ask (using voice) if this street is paved, and I could answer it using voice too.
reply▲marssaxman53 minutes ago
[-] Thank you for the reminder! I got out of the habit of checking StreetComplete since my previous neighborhood was well populated in OSM, but having just moved, I should check it out again.
reply▲StreetComplete is cool, fun and useful, yes. And there is its companion app StreetMeasure which makes it easy to add measurements like the width of a narrow street, for example.
reply▲Schiendelman3 hours ago
[-] Hi! Is this yours? Would you like help porting this to iOS?
reply▲One thing missing on osm is pictures. Would defeats Google maps if it had some, where users would feedback and bad shots would get wiped to save space. We would get the best shots the world has to offer.
reply▲khernandezrt2 hours ago
[-] Does it have to be a mobile app? Id love to do this when im bored at work but i dont wanna make it seem like im just sitting on my phone.
reply▲I think the reasoning behind this is that ideally you're at the location where you can confirm what you see, instead of maybe referring to older media or from memory.
That being said, I agree with you and would like to see more ways to access the tool!
A web app would also make it work on iOS (and other non-Android platforms) at the same time
reply▲You can edit OSM from its main site [0], although there's a much steeper learning curve when using the site (as you have far more freedom and it's not super easy to figure out the standard way to tag some situations).
[0] https://www.openstreetmap.org/
You can edit OSM from their web apps. This is intended to be used in the field but I guess you could use it to find things that need fixing.
reply▲Adding to that: StreetComplete specifically creates only quests for information which must be checked in the terrain like opening hours, surfaces, traffic light sounds. Anything surveyable from maps and other sources should be edited using the web editors. OpenStreetMap iD is probably the easiest to learn.
reply▲endymion-light2 hours ago
[-] I really love this - fantastic that it's open source too as would love to contribute. Is there an opportunity to add fresh new sites on this?
reply▲As in can you add points of interest like shops? Yes, there's a places overlay with an add button, and a things overlay for things like benches, bicycle parking, etc. For adding buildings, roads, or paths you'd need something else.
reply▲I love this tool.
It brought me back to mapping on OSM.
Wherever you are and need to wait for a minute, there are quests to be solved there.
I recommend SCEE for those who are already familiar with OSM mapping or are in an area where the most common tasks are already covered: https://github.com/Helium314/SCEE
Acrobatic_Road2 hours ago
[-] Every day I take a 2 hour walk and contribute as much data as I can to OSM using this app.
reply▲I enjoyed the simulated phone screenshots, particularly the choice of House of the Trembling Madness, a great beer stockist and drinking establishment on Lendal in York. I would like to think that the name in the input field is deliberately slightly wrong, ready to be fixed by someone. (It's "House of the Trembling Madness" rather than "The House of Trembling Madness".) Gamification at another level :-)
reply▲baumschubser1 hour ago
[-] Just through your comment I found out that they have different screenshots for all their localization settings. Cool!
reply▲This is such a great idea. Are there ever any plans for a web app?
reply▲Is there something equivalent for iOS?
reply▲reply▲It would be nice if they made a web app, that would make it work on iOS but also desktop and every other platform with a web browser at the same time
reply▲I agree! It seems like their work on the iOS app would bring them a lot closer to web app support as well. In the iOS tracking issue, they say the main changes are moving to Kotlin Multiplatform and Compose Multiplatform, which both support web as a target.
reply▲I'll take a look and see if I can help out. Thx.
reply▲> ANDROID WILL BECOME A LOCKED-DOWN PLATFORM IN XXX
My guess is no because of the developer linking too below (and how it's always existed this way for iOS)
https://keepandroidopen.org
I wonder why this needs to be an app at all, instead of web based.
preetham_rangu2 hours ago
[-] Been using this for my dog walks too. There's something oddly satisfying about turning a boring loop around the block into "wait, does that bin have a lid?" Never thought trash cans would be the thing that got me into mapping.
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