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Tell HN: Up/downvotes of comments on HN are silently ignored when using Tor

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6 hours ago

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I noticed that whenever I upvote or downvote a comment while connected through Tor, my vote is silently ignored. I still get the "unvote/undown" button, but the user karma in their profile remains unchanged. I can repeat the same while connected through the clearnet, and everything works as expected: The karma of the affected user changes accordingly. The upvotes for the stories work fine though.

Is this a new defense from bots? Why does it affect established user accounts like mine? Has anybody else also noticed this?

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KomoD

2 hours ago

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> but the user karma in their profile remains unchanged

The karma doesn't change immediately in my experience.

But the FAQ does say some votes aren't counted:

> Roughly, the number of upvotes on their posts minus the number of downvotes. These don't match up exactly. Some votes are dropped by anti-abuse software.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

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fsflover

2 hours ago

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> The karma doesn't change immediately in my experience.

It does if I upvote from the clearnet. I have just done it, and your karma immediately increased by one, from 4297 to 4298.

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KomoD

2 hours ago

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I tried with yours before commenting, and it didn't update

/shrug

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fsflover

2 hours ago

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If I don't see the karma update immediately, then I never see it later, too.

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khurs

4 hours ago

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Have you checked the network request and response? Is it as per non-tor

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brudgers

5 hours ago

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Maybe stale user profile pages are more likely to be served via Tor.

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fsflover

5 hours ago

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Even after I wait a couple of days after my upvoting, the user karma does not change. I can also look at the karma in the clearnet.

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rationalist

5 hours ago

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I've noticed that my upvotes and downvotes do not appear to affect comments like they used to, or at least there is now a delayed reaction to where I don't know if it's me or someone else voting.

I use Mullvad.