Restoring Faith: Crete's Ancient Minoan Civilisation (2009)
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JKolios
1 month ago
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For some reason it was very hard for the Victorians who pioneered archaeology to understand that ancient humans were actual human beings and not storytelling archetypes or moral exemplars. This kind of archaeology is just inverted science fiction: Commenting on the present through the lens of the imaginary past, instead of the imaginary future.
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w0de0
1 month ago
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The Victorians found it very hard to see contemporary humans as anything other than archetypes or moral exemplars. In this way they are quite similar to us moderns.
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achrono
1 month ago
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Despite me having (almost) nothing to do with the Victorians, I have to regularly shake off a vague sense of respecting the Greeks for having "laid the foundation" for us in the 21st c. Because they did nothing of the kind -- they were just doing things they wanted to do, just like we are today. Heron's aeolipile was a mechanical curiosity, not a steam engine. Big difference.
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kromem
1 month ago
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For throwing that much shade, it does a piss poor job in actually backing up or citing the evidence.

Evans definitely had issues with how he went about things and his analysis. For example, the "snake goddess" is holding snakes remarkably similar to wooden snake props found in Egypt 300 years earlier.

But this article is pretty damn empty of actual substance.

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nobodywillobsrv
1 month ago
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Funny that this article also makes the incorrect link between defense and preparing for war and "not having peace".
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pegasus
1 month ago
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I visited Knossos on three occasions and every time I returned I found it even more enchanting and evocative. Not only does it speak of a fascinating flourishing Bronze Age civilization which could be said to be, via the Greco-Roman, the grandmother of Western civilization, but also because it speaks just as loudly of another time of flourishing arts, this time much more recent, of all those artists mentioned in the article, and more besides.

Evans clearly wasn't perfect, nor his restoration (confabulation? reinvention?) work, but I think they are also better than what the critics claim. For better or worse, he really did give new life to those old stones. Sure, he might well have exaggerated Minoan pacifism (and proto-feminism) to make a point, but didn't completely make it up either.

Talking about Minoan art, here's [1] an article about a jaw-droppingly exquisite seal stone only recently discovered. Also related to the article in that it depicts a bloody war scene. It was found in a Mycenaean tomb, they were known to be much more war-like, so maybe a commission. What's most remarkable though it the anatomical precision which took a thousand years to be rediscovered/reinvented again, this time in Classical Greece. The same type of work stunningly modern-looking musculature depiction can be seen in a couple of fragments at the highly recommended Heraklion Archeological Museum in the capital of Crete. Worth checking out in the same museum, mind-bendingly playful yet refined pottery, called Kamares Ware.

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yubblegum
1 month ago
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> "shared pagan roots" ..."his scholarly integrity"

A mix of false & presumptuous generalizations, and a somewhat irritating yet unintentionally humorous and ironic collection of words.

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